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A Jobbik gerillakampánya-e a Munkáspárt?

2009. április 22. 14:55 / Borbás Barnabás

Egyre nehezebb balosnak és szélbalosnak lenni Magyarországon, amikor az ember azt látja, hogy a gazdaságtan marxista tippjeit jobbról előzve terítik, hogy Thürmer Gyulát jószerével már csak a HírTv nyomja, és hogy minket kivéve minden tisztességes európai országban klasszik szakadt pólós punkok kidobósoznak kővel és utcai szeméttel a balhék alkalmával, nem ám fasisztoid szkinhedek.

Ezen kesereg (ok, legyünk tényszerűek: mereng) a hvg.hu címlapsztorija is: „A hazai szélsőjobb rendezvényei, figurái, szóhasználata nap mint nap beszédtémát szolgáltatnak, miközben radikális baloldaliakkal (...) csak filmklubokban és fesztiválokon találkozhatunk."

A cikk többek közt Konok Péter történésszel, Bozóki András volt kulturális miniszterrel, néhány Munkáspárt-drukkerrel és névtelen internetes aktivistával boncolgatja a témát - a szöveg végére érve (meg az ajánlott linkek böngészése után) legvalószínűbbnek a Jobbik- Munkáspárt konspiráció tűnik.

Weben annyira nem halad

Egy ideje nyilvánvaló a bal eszméjét és jövőképét illető borultsága, de most ez kevésbé foglalkoztatott, inkább azt nem értem, hogy a jobbos radiknál túltengő informatikusokból hogy nem tudott bal felé is szorulni néhány, amikor egyrészt a Munkáspárt hivatalos oldala, másrészt a KISZ new generation lapja is úgy néz ki, mint a kilencvenes évek extra.hu-n regisztrált, közepes ismertségű warez oldalai. Vagy ott van az Attac Magyarország, ahol feltehetően a legtöbb az egy lapra jutó TGM-ek száma az egész interneten.

Az utóbbi 4-5 évben magát döntően a weben keresztül szervező jobbos szubkult tanulságát akár magáévá is tehette volna az ellenoldal - helyette úgy tűnik, inkább hasznosítja annak kész anyagait, például itt (elképesztő, valaki vegye el tőle a Windows Movie Makert!). Gyanús is, hogy ez valami Jobbikos gerillakampány.

A HVG-s cikk foglalkozik a némileg konszolidáltabb formátumba öntött tarfor.hu-val is (Társadalmi Forradalom - anarchokommunista portál), sőt annak tagjai is megszólalnak anonim jelleggel (bár én eleve nem szoktam futtatni olyan lapokat, ahol nincs impresszum). A megmondás itt is erős tényező, amúgy többnyire TGM, meg Krausz Tamás írásait keringtetik.

Sok vörös póló

A balos tényezők hanyatlásáról a tárgyalt cikkben Bozóki András (akiről tudjuk: fesztiválok alkalmával néhány órára szeret anarchista is lenni) azt mondja, hogy a gyurcsányi kísérlet szerinte megfelelő kilábalás lett volna, mivel „A 2006-os választás idején elég sok fiatal mozgott Che Guevara-pólóban, néhány hónappal később azonban már egészen más volt a helyzet." (Mert a CG póló, az ilyen indikátor, és csak akkor veteti fel magát, ha sok az MSZP szavazó.)

A magyar baloldali mozgalmárság nemzetközi szintű erőtlenségét firtatja a Konok Péter is (ő éppen Guevaráról írt, helyenként elég apologetikus cikket a Rubiconba [06/8]), bár szerinte a történet régebbi, mert „az Osztrák-Magyar Monarchiában magyarként a környező országok nemzeteivel szemben elnyomó pozícióban voltunk, míg más népek nemzeti ébredése kitermelte a tiltakozó mozgalmakat." (Mondjuk erről a nemzeti ébredés/tiltakozó mozgalmak kérdésről megkérdeznék egy Kossuthot is. Meg azt sem értem, hogy akkor Táncsics Mihályban kit is tisztel a magyar baloldal?)

Az aktuális benyomásgyűjtés elsődleges tapasztalata, hogy a Jobbiknak és Munkáspártnak nem csak a kapitalizmushoz való hozzáállása, vagy nagy vonalakban a külpolitikája (oroszok!) egyezik, de még emez vígan használja a jobbos kampányanyagokat is (ld. fent). Nagyon várjuk a fejleményeket.

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szaki 2009. április 22. 15:57:15

Biztos, hogy az, de a munkaspart.hu-ról ez a legjobb: „Húsz éve sem voltunk gazdagok,de sok mindent megengedhettünk magunknak” :D

De azt nem értem, mi a baj Bogár Lászlóval. Kicsit kemény, de azért igaza van.

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Pont a szélsőbal ilyen terű lemaradásáról gondolkoztam. Sőt. Nemcsak a szélsőbal, hanem maga a baloldalnak sincs jó, modern, minden mai igényt kielégítő portálja.

Nehéz a jobboldalra egy jó portállal berobbanni, mert sok jó van, van jól megcsinált, szép, van ami az ingyenes blogszolgáltatók előnyeit lovagolja meg. (Van ellenpélda is pl. mno boááá)

Baloldalt lemaradás van. Egy légüres tér. (Egy másik kérdés, hogy lassan nem csak a web szinten van baloldalt vákuum, hanem lassan már ember sincs ott.)

Szóval hiába lenne mondjuk egy jó weblapja, jó motorral, jó szerkesztőkkel az újonnan létrejött szélsőbalos radikális labancinfónak, ha senki nem olvasná.

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Kicsit off, de a 13. hónap neve undecimber.

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Kösz! Lobbizni kezdünk a Undecimberi nyugdíj fogalom bevezetése mellett.

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Szkeptikus 2009. április 22. 20:31:08

@szaki
1. Bogár Lacival szerintem is baj van, például nem létező fogalmakkal dobálózik, adja a lovat a konspirációs elméletek alá, és nem értek egyet az osztályelméletekkel de bővebben itt: hetivalasz.hu/cikk/0402/8668
2. egyébként meg ajánlom mindenki figyelmébe:
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szaki 2009. április 23. 19:30:12

Szkeptikus
Én abból indulok ki, hogy nagyon rég mondja már, hogy baj lesz. Aztán amikor baj lett, akkor meg sokan lehülyézik, pedig volt több minden, amiben igaza volt, és lehet, hogy a megoldásokban is kompetens. Például az, hogy a multinacionális cégek arányaiban sokkal többet kopasztanak az országon, mint amennyi jót tesznek (munkahelyek...), igaz (szerintem), és sok baj forrása.
Az cikk elég régi... de ott is van jogos érv.
Összességében még mindig nem tartom olyan rossznak Bogárt, de a szóhasználata tényleg nem valami jó, és hallgatni is unalmas néha...

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